The Internet's Finest Tropical Fruit Discussion Forum! So base it on your experience of your Jaboticaba cultivar vs. grumichama. Cherry of Rio Grande. A really good Variety is worth the space in the ground and is worth growing on its own merits. Actually, it's more like a large shrub and is often sold as a nice hedging plant (which also bears edible fruit as a bonus) but we purchased our Grumichama as a fruit tree first and an ornamental second. I much prefer Grumichama. Even though there are different Jaboticaba cultivars, the taste of the fruit are distinctively different from Grumichama. I have only tasted a first year fruiting grumi so it wont be fair to compare with a red jabo that i have liked. "All discussion content within the forum reflects the views of individual participants only and do not necessarily represent the views held by the Tropical Fruit Forum as an organization. The Cherry of Rio Grande has a thin peeling bark and the Grumichama has a rough thick bark. The taste was somewhat insipid to me and the texture was somewhat 'off' as well. The dark-coloured sepals remain at the fruit apex. Grumis really can't compete with jaboticaba big guns like grimal for taste or productivity. They often have fruit on at the same time and I eat them at the same time. Cherry of the Rio Grande -- best cherry tree to plant if you live in zone 9 or 10 and crave the taste of fresh cherries! Grafts may promote suckering. They have green sepals, white petals and numerous white stamens with yellow anthers and an inferior ovary. For me they are as different as surinam cherry is to CORTG. There is no great difference in flavour between these. Jaboticaba is a little more uniform and reproducible with well established varieties including the newer precocious varieties having a predictable fruit flavor. Growth is slow when young and it may take several years before the plant is 2m high. Climate: It is a sub-tropical species. Eugenia luschnathiana - Pitomba . Memo to Daleys, your catalogue classes its frost-resistance as low. Cherries of the Rio Grande are nice and tasty but I would say after years extremely hard to fruit. Not a simple question because IMHO the variability in grumichama fruits is as high as the variability of cherry of the Rio Grande, Pitanga and Pitomba. A really good Variety is worth the space in the ground and is worth growing on its own merits. Grumichama, also called Brazil Cherry Eugenia brasiliensis (dombeyi) Origin: Indigenous to coastal areas of south east Brazil. For me it was a shy bearer until I started giving it some extra water in the spring and fall before it bloomed. Line a good grumi up against vexator or a yellow now that is a different story. I prefer jabos, but have only tried grumi leaves thus far. A complete NPK fertilizer with trace elements should be applied regularly and in proportion to tree size. Well-managed trees can produce 15-25kg of fruit per season. Eugenia brasiliensis - Grumichama. Eugenia involucrata - Cherry of the Rio Grande . When they appear to be overripe they taste the best. I think it was more troubled by the heavy clay. Even the big fruited orange grumis can't match it with good jabs. I like bitterness in sweet tasting fruits more than tartness. I have kept one outdoors through a Canberra winter, with temperatures down to minus 6 Celsius, and no visible frost damage. 2 seeds per pack. My 25 - 30 year old cherry rio grande and similarly aged grumichama were suffering from severe drought stress. No comparison in my book. Indigenous to coastal areas of south east Brazil. Eugenia selloi - Pitangatuba . I like and eat the skin of all jaboticabas which i was ridiculed about at a plinia fb group when i mentioned. It is a small evergreen tree, 4-5 meters in height, with dark green, glossy, waxy leaves very similar in appearance to other eugenia species such as brazilian cherry (E. uniflora) and grumichama (E. brasiliensis). Myrtaceae Family. There may be 1-4 large greenish-grey seeds which are not eaten. Largely undemanding of soil types provided they are well-drained, with a preference for deep, slightly acid, sandy loams. Forced to choose I prefer Jaboticaba. Also, for myself and a couple of friends with grummichama in San Diego, they seem to be shy bearers, not nearly as productive as my jaboticaba. I have a good Grumi selection being a big sweet yellow and its rootstock has good quality large dark fruit. Eugenia uniflora - Lolita Surinam Cherry . Since distributed to Australia and elswhere. Storage life at room temperature is only 4-5 days but if chilled this can be slightly extended. They prefer partial shade but will produce fruit in full sun. Not a simple question because IMHO the variability in grumichama fruits is as high as the variability of cherry of the Rio Grande, Pitanga and Pitomba. That, plus the fact that the entire tree essentially ripens within a 1-week period, it was just not worth it. It now produces large numbers of delicious fruit twice a year. I'd say Medium. It is flanked by sabara and grimal jabs with red hybrid pretty close also. Fruit yield may be decreased if this is too vigorous. Not serious, but Med fly can be a problem as can birds. See if you can find people growing them and how large fruits are as parents. Growing Grumichama plants (Eugenia Dombeyi) as a backyard fruit tree is certainly not something often talked about mainly because the Grumichama is not a very well known fruit tree. I have only tasted murta jaboticaba. Optimal production is obtained with more than 1500mm pa, well-distributed throughout the year. The fruit is a berry. Fruit production may commence 4-5 years after planting seedlings. Pitombas and Grumichamas much easier but you want to actually taste a grumichama you are getting as they vary so much in flavor. It is a highly ornamental, erect evergreen tree to 10m high, multi-stemmed or with a short trunk. Cherry of rio grande looks like a much taller more spindly version of grumichama. There are many more in the closely related genus Syzygium. I would not disrespect the best grumis as they are nice cherry like fruit but not every tree can get the gold medal. Excellent container tree. I much prefer the taste of the jaboticaba to the grummichama. Mine is about to flower again. For best taste wait until the fruit is almost black. A sweet, tart cherry fruit that looks like you'd expect a cherry to look! Mature plants can handle light frosts and will survive drought periods, but cropping deteriorates without regular rainfall or irrigation.
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